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"It was a copy of the first CD (Extra Capsular Extraction) snapped in half and taped to a piece of paper that said, 'I'll never buy another Sub Pop release again.' It was pretty cool."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">And indeed, for those fortunate enough to be familiar with the Earth idiom, it's obvious Carlson is of such soul-shredding, slo-mo riffing and wunderkind guitar wizard stock that a reaction saturated with such venom and vehemence ultimately comes as no surprise. Though, of course, in this case, it's a big boot in the denims.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">"Fan" mail like the broken CD, though undaunting to Carlson, nevertheless colored the marketing personality with which Sub Pop is heralding Earth's latest LP, Phase 3: </span><span style="font-family: arial;">Thrones And Dominions, clearly the magnum opus of the band's thus far supra-triumphant trilogy of releases. Easily Carlson's furthest foray into anything even hinting of commercial viability-with some "move-ments" up to 10 times shorter than those comprising both the aforementioned pantpeeingly impressive debut EP as well as 1993's Earth 2 LP. Unwilling to sink a real budget into what some view as a whimsical pet project of Sub Pop moguls Bruce Pavitt and Jon Poneman (both long known for near-impeccable musical taste), the Seattle label has launched Phase 3 not with the usual advance compact discs, snappy promotional pictures and overwhelming media and advertising blitz (all trademarks of said label), but with dubbed cassettes and backyard Polaroids taken by Carlson's friends. "Obviously I'm not a big commercial success, and I'm not going to be farmed out to a major anytime soon," Carlson admits. "But I feel as though there is somewhat of a marketing problem with the label and that the bands tend to get blamed. It sort of annoys me since this is the first of my records that has songs short enough to play on the radio. And then I get told they're not doing any promo CDs, just cassettes. Nobody's going to play an advance cassette on the radio."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">As for selling records, Carlson says his output may be stigmatized by the very logo thousands of teenage boys would give up their left nut ring to stamp on their record sleeves: "The people that are into rock see the Sub Pop logo, buy an Earth record and are disappointed by it. The people who might be really into my stuff see the logo and won't touch it."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Though Carlson notes the unlikelihood of any of Earth's releases becoming a surprise success, he says he still feels a bit duped, and cites cases like Nurse With Wound and Current 93, bands of arguable commercial stability that established and retained record-buying audiences for lengthy careers.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">"The general feeling is that there are a lot of people who express interest in Earth, but stop short of buying the record," he says, paraphrasing one Sub Pop employee. "Critically, we've done welL Even Forced Exposure gave us a great review, and I don't think they ever like Sub Pap stuff. I think that a lot of reviewers saw the first EP as sort of a hip test. They didn't know how they were supposed to respond to it: 'Ooh, do I say I like this?"'</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Aside from problems with Phase 3's marketing scheme, Carlson says he almost didn't even get into the studio to put the album to tape. "This record turned into a lot of trouble," he says. "I work really quickly in the studio. Usually if I don't get a track down in one or two takes, I leave it and come back to it, or just forget about it. So I started recording Phase 3 and things were going pretty well,but then I had trouble getting down to the studio for the days I booked. I had to borrow all of this equipment and I don't have a car, so I was depending on other people for rides. Everyone was flaking out on me. This guy was supposed to drive me over there and decided he had to go get crack instead, stuff like that. It was a nightmare. Sub Pop got mad and pulled the plug, so I had to wait like a year before I could finish it. In that respect, I think it's sort of like two different records since the tracks were laid down so far apart."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Carlson hopes to tour in Europe this summer and says he wants to cover the U.S. as the opportunity arises. Until then, he's polishing his resume and searching for a lab tech position. But Carlson shamelessly admits that "given the choice, I'd prefer to be a wealthy rock star."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>***INTERVIEW END***</b></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh4itpo68YrnnldKDCRNxagz-I09xWTDUVwVNf0NUeTdGrzIu3MhB7pbqS4KSL8yn-2ws3Ce4IZrtVNlW7_FqHP3gVNwWQjrUA0z6pgt2LA0z8pGAvOUKI7bmNK-XwvoIN-gO7UtRlsJK7AYfEw0xC9-9NbrlSAVOO1mkqwaJ7Lf-_atGok9BaRrh0R=s602" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="602" data-original-width="600" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh4itpo68YrnnldKDCRNxagz-I09xWTDUVwVNf0NUeTdGrzIu3MhB7pbqS4KSL8yn-2ws3Ce4IZrtVNlW7_FqHP3gVNwWQjrUA0z6pgt2LA0z8pGAvOUKI7bmNK-XwvoIN-gO7UtRlsJK7AYfEw0xC9-9NbrlSAVOO1mkqwaJ7Lf-_atGok9BaRrh0R=s320" width="319" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgS4UJ_1KXmBsgeIzBn93YRCgm9VjQ8UXaLsgGQSK5tkMf8PfxfBrxMc4x3--k9UVTBDgnGlncaekMFFysLEHO9z5ovD9ZUXOncyhvO8aBFgZMdBF6GhruRQKrrU9ONvt4SoOEYxLkI9Bt0twXh7QvB_G9nvuyu8ZX9_ZADf2StdDustnz58JAYvQWQ=s600" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="600" data-original-width="600" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgS4UJ_1KXmBsgeIzBn93YRCgm9VjQ8UXaLsgGQSK5tkMf8PfxfBrxMc4x3--k9UVTBDgnGlncaekMFFysLEHO9z5ovD9ZUXOncyhvO8aBFgZMdBF6GhruRQKrrU9ONvt4SoOEYxLkI9Bt0twXh7QvB_G9nvuyu8ZX9_ZADf2StdDustnz58JAYvQWQ=s320" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial;">Listen! 'Phase 3' full album</span></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="BLOG_video_class" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/G84iFJy_IoM" width="320" youtube-src-id="G84iFJy_IoM"></iframe></div></div>BLACK OPERATIONShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10716726691642995625noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853275759444398332.post-12991124922706845222021-12-27T08:33:00.026-08:002021-12-29T09:34:50.683-08:00EARTH interview - London May 1995 prior to live performance @ Disobey (released as 'Sunn Amps...' CD) - Here Be Monsters #9 UK fanzine (Nov '95)<p><br /></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgXduDlLxBbUeJvRSLnHh1K_DX2jeLKj_OaUNWH4VDibvHwjZzMj_A-aEJxXR-JszfZzTLw2SleUufARLHskJDM02tV0LZqk6G8Xljmjx4pYw4zHlXDOqYdXq0oPrZvbUkvD26WxxXwclNDwwOaqbVkTSzj-jgDFXCjUHFwMAZS0c7hBtaEZBOI9utU=s327" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="199" data-original-width="327" height="195" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgXduDlLxBbUeJvRSLnHh1K_DX2jeLKj_OaUNWH4VDibvHwjZzMj_A-aEJxXR-JszfZzTLw2SleUufARLHskJDM02tV0LZqk6G8Xljmjx4pYw4zHlXDOqYdXq0oPrZvbUkvD26WxxXwclNDwwOaqbVkTSzj-jgDFXCjUHFwMAZS0c7hBtaEZBOI9utU=s320" width="320" /></a></span></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial; text-align: left;">Originally published by UK fanzine 'Here Be Monsters' (#9 Nov '95). </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial; text-align: left;">Interview </span><span style="font-family: arial; text-align: left;">by Clive </span><span style="font-family: arial; text-align: left;">Roberts and shared with his permission.</span></div><div><div><span style="font-family: arial;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial;">Transcribed by Michael Gillham 2002 to share with Southern Lord forum users. </span><span style="font-family: arial;">MG notes:</span></div><div><p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">1. Interview conducted at The Garage London May 18th 1995 prior to Earth's live performance at Disobey Club which was released as "Sunn Amps And Smashed Guitars Live!" CD on Blast First. This </span><span style="font-family: arial;">was also Earth's debut UK & European live performance.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">2. </span><span style="font-family: arial;">For the most part, I've left punctuation, spelling mistakes, etc, as originally printed.</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEihcoTOl9mqvsmveEv-jfCegtN2IsK95zvbQ9hDZmVZkwV4gcQ4RC79IKG7lrPMgML5qVjEKhwNS7ShNRoLtNXlw06Vfp4BKBKsUDc3fqD9PZftKjQZhswiV8k9xYY72seL82gs4WAcjQCFp8elXzi7WFUgJmBWrdexMifAZsCay-IFJg0-wjhJFqk1=s1024" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1024" data-original-width="732" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEihcoTOl9mqvsmveEv-jfCegtN2IsK95zvbQ9hDZmVZkwV4gcQ4RC79IKG7lrPMgML5qVjEKhwNS7ShNRoLtNXlw06Vfp4BKBKsUDc3fqD9PZftKjQZhswiV8k9xYY72seL82gs4WAcjQCFp8elXzi7WFUgJmBWrdexMifAZsCay-IFJg0-wjhJFqk1=s320" width="229" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgtXjOo5gK59C-6S5UQGQ9EA3JL4fWkzI9jUuPnV8TXwE5VBN0ts9vJQO1eQxH62OIObxIZHbrZ1tXnABMRP73T5B7cYKslNHZxYZCP_CpSH8tcDFyPzHCgz76klMF18hOFbIb5h7QlpDgMHXdvuddStd32Zhn0NnilBkyH5bnacUT42nvWPisxBYmV=s1024" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="700" data-original-width="1024" height="219" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgtXjOo5gK59C-6S5UQGQ9EA3JL4fWkzI9jUuPnV8TXwE5VBN0ts9vJQO1eQxH62OIObxIZHbrZ1tXnABMRP73T5B7cYKslNHZxYZCP_CpSH8tcDFyPzHCgz76klMF18hOFbIb5h7QlpDgMHXdvuddStd32Zhn0NnilBkyH5bnacUT42nvWPisxBYmV=s320" width="320" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial;">All photos by Mark Benny</span></p><p><b style="font-family: arial;">***INTERVIEW START***</b></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><i>At the garage dead on time. Now getting in..... I hate it here - they can be right funny. Thru the first doors - no-one in the Ticket Office ! Shit ! How am I gonna get thru the next Security Doors ?? Wait a short while, try the Security Doors and Oh, there're open !! Walk right in announcing my arrival & try to find someone..... Great, 3 geezers gathered round a table in the Venue area itself. Before I can introduce myself, I'm greeted in the er, time-honoured fashion London style by one of them. "How the F**K did YOU get in ??" he bellows. "Thru the F**king Front Door like everyone else ! If there's sposed to be Security there should make sure it IS there" I retort, expecting a Bunch of Five !! The guy is suddenly embarrassed and while he's off probably giving someone ELSE a Smack in the Mouth, I'm shown upstairs via the Main Bar and a Hole in the Wall (Honest Guv !!).</i></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><i>In a Cell-like room Upstairs at the Garage sit Four men. My arrival has spoilt their conversation and they stare at me as I Clock them each in turn. I recognise Three of them 1> Ex Wire man, now 'Bee Keeper' at the Disobey Nights - Bruce Gilbert. 2> Head Honcho of Blast First - Paul Smith. 3> EARTH Leader Dylan.....so the other guy MUST be with HIM. Luckily they know I'm coming and leave us while we, er, TALK. Y'see I'e purposely not prepared any questions as I know full well EARTH will make-up tonight's set as they go along, so appearing fully in command of the situation I begin ! I quickly find DYLAN is highly intelligent yet a slow quiet talker with a tendency to tail-off and mumble at the end of his sentences, whilst IAN is just as intelligent but more articulate. The only other thing you need to know is that they're swigging from bottles of Campari !! We're off!!</i></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> Dylan Carlson</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> Ian Dickson</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>DID YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF A DEFINATE SOUND WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "I definitely had an idea of where I was headed for. I've been thru 9(?) people...I don't know if they didn't fit in or I'd forced them out..... we'll say that they didn't fit in !! It's just attitude - everybody wanted a controlling link. When I started out I was REAL control freak !!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>WHAT ABOUT SUB POP AND YOUR FIRST RELEASE. HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "We had recorded that before. We did a Show the weekend before with L7 and we were approached at the end of that".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>WHAT'S AUDIENCES REACTIONS LIKE ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "It's always been sorta (LAUGHING) people leaving or people into it, and I'd rather people be sorta polarising rather than 'just like another Rock Band.'"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>YOUR NEW CD'S SORTA 'COMMERCIAL' !!</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> (LAUGHS) "We wanna shift units !! Anyone that says they don't start a Band for the desire to be famous or sell alot of Records....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>ANY OF THE THREE MINUTE TRACKS BEING PLAYED ON COLLEGE RADIO ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "Yeah definatly !! They've started to show up on the CMJ (COLLEGE MUSIC JOURNAL Chart and stuff....which has been weird....and there's been a much better reaction....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>WHAT ABOUT THE 'PHASE III' TRACK. HOW DID YOU GET THAT WHITE NOISE SOUND ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "It was basically an old 'Maestro' Phaser played into the Amp. Not guitar based - just the Pedal played into the Amp. So it's just like waiting..... and I told the guy to run the Tape and he really wanted to add something....and that's it ! But this album I didn't get to do everything that was planned....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "It was an Oddissy in Creation !! It took a Year to make. It took 3 different Recording Studios. Er, different members of the Band kept leaving and joining. They were basically temporary members ! Dylan was like the Core of the Band. People like me would come in - I didn't play on the Record - I work for Sub Pop and I kinda oversaw the Production on the Record. It was a strange creation process....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "It was a f**ked up time !!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>HAVE YOU PLAYED TOGETHER BEFORE?</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "No !! And that's the way I like it..... like I used to be a real control freak about er, Live and it had to be SO.....then like I just abandoned that. And that's the fun of Live things - the Rollercoaster!! The things that could go completely wrong ! Yeah like I'm not gonna play anything from the Records..... this ain't a Set List.....it's a Catalog !!".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "Well, the way I thought we'd do the Set was he'd start off and play like low & like maybe something off the Record ?!?!?!!".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>YOU GUYS HAVEN'T EVEN DISCUSSED IT YET ?!?!? THIS SOUNDS REAL GOOD !!</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> (LAUGHING) "and then I'll like join him up and it'll be good !!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>BY THE WAY, THEY'RE DRINKING COMPARI AND IAN WANTS SPONSERSHIP! BUT I SUGGEST THEM DOING A SOUNDTRACK FOR AN AD....</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "Yeah, a really long one !! (BIG LAUGHS !!) Like a Seventy Two Minute Compari Ad....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>HAVE YOU EVER BEEN APPROACHED TO DO SOME SOUNDTRACK MUSIC ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "No, not yet. We're open to it though. I've always been influenced by Film alot....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>THERE'S A LULL. SO I ASK IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN THE INTERNET.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "Yeah, I'm interested - it's sorta what I do for a living. (POINTS) He's a Luddite !!! Earth is on the Internet and so's Sub Pop. So now I can get my Hate Mail direct !! And I'm making a video of this whole Tour process....and I'M gonna post that on the Internet. It will be mostly out-takes from the Austin(?) Show and some Audio and I'll package it and post it...".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>DO YOU THINK THE NET WILL EVER BE CONTROLLABLE ???</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "Oh NO ! It's beyond control. With Incryption on if they shut it down everyone would create Hell coz Microsoft and all these big companies are heavily invested in the Internet - there's no way they're gonna shut it down. There;s strong Incryption out there already like PGP Pretty Good Privacy? that people can like Incrypt any live message into a completely unbreakable form - which is like Public Key Incryption where you like send out a Key. It pretty much stops anyone from knowing what your're sending. In fact it's illegal right now to export that PGP Program from America for National Security reasons...(PUTS ON CAR SALEMAN'S VOICE) But I happen to have a copy for sale....!!!".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>PROGRESS HAS ALSO BROUGHT US THE CD. ANY VIEWS...???</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "Well, that's what's Cool about Vinyl...like to order of the Tracks, the Packaging, the Whole Thing y'know ? The CD is just all there".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "Back to the Cave for us all".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "I think you have to live them. Lie 'EARTH II' was the perfect response to the CD. One Song !! I mean what can they do !?!?! They can skip foward and it sounds kinda like where it was before or take it off & listen to it !"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>A CASE OF BEING ANTI-MUSIC ??</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "It was anti-FORMAT. It was meant to utilize the format to it's Extreme....".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "....And it was against the format at the same time".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>THE CAMPARI'S FLOWING NOW & WE START SERIOSULY GOING OFF AT TANGENTS....!!</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "We talked to the N.M.E the other day & the guy was just a SURLY ASS !!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "I get the feeling he had sorta pre-conceived ideas about us. There're more like Tabloids...like they hear all the rumours... We saw some Monuments today near Buckingham Palace to all the er, Mounted / Cavalry Regiments of The British Empire (listed by Country) & that was like a Religious Experience (LAUGHS) thinking about God & The Regiment !!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "If they can inspire a Twenty Seven year old American with something that happened 150 Years ago....!!!??".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>BUT THE BRITISH EMPRE WASN'T MUCH TO BE PROUD ABOUT. IT WAS BORN OUT OF FEAR, CONQUEST AND SUPERIOR FIRE-POWER, ETC.</b>..</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">D> "Actually it wasn't Fire-Power. Do you know what they couldn't stand?? It was the bayonet charge !!! They begged to die anyway at the end of that !! It was like watching a line of men walk in and emerging from this sorta Hellacious Fire without firing back... Yeah, like Cortez had 500 men. The other natives hated the Aztecs and helped him. But Pizarro went to Peru & took out the Inca Civilisation with FIFTY men and some dogs and he gets no credit ! I think he was a Massive Hard-Ass !!! ".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>SO WILL TWO GUYS FRO EARTH WIN OVER THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT ???!!</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I> "Well we have 2 Marshall stacks - what does the Audience have ?!".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><i>Head spinning I stumble outside to a Shop & buy a can of Coke. I drink it staring at the traffic crawling around the busy Highbury Corner, just glad to be back out in the Real World !!!! Shit - it sure had been a weird Forty-Five minutes !! I couldn't make it to the Show but I heard it was an Event !! I bet it was.....!!</i></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><i>Recently I got onto the INTERNET at Work and managed to see IAN'S er, Handywork. Yep, I got in to SUB POP's Net Address & pretty cool it is too. Amongst the Discographys, News, Band Info and nice Color Pics, there's the chance to Download Songs and even a coupla Videos. Great stuff....and it's gonna get better.....</i></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>***INTERVIEW END***</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b><br /></b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Earth live @ Disobey was released by Blast First </span><span style="font-family: arial;">as 'Ripped On Fascist Ideas' </span><span style="font-family: arial;">on 'Sunn Amps And Smashed Guitars Live!' CD </span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">https://www.discogs.com/release/920138-Earth-Sunn-Amps-And-Smashed-Guitars-Live</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiG3s_XwQIuIzz_R9QnSfmx9dY3Hz8N6zCqElhfsLmOEE8y9ZjOxTuBPuB3MANY0lLZn96tM2Ze4NFnZpHVIKXUk2W6f3h_3BGoTw1XpPHEIv9XwStaxScYhoBupuhYgooEJLu1drIy7cY9299AQqkRkIshnfDLd9uW2ogk4TZGb2hTz6hAuHRel7ZA=s850" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="846" data-original-width="850" height="318" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiG3s_XwQIuIzz_R9QnSfmx9dY3Hz8N6zCqElhfsLmOEE8y9ZjOxTuBPuB3MANY0lLZn96tM2Ze4NFnZpHVIKXUk2W6f3h_3BGoTw1XpPHEIv9XwStaxScYhoBupuhYgooEJLu1drIy7cY9299AQqkRkIshnfDLd9uW2ogk4TZGb2hTz6hAuHRel7ZA=s320" width="320" /></a></span></div><span style="font-family: arial;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgo6GPUzV6kXgio12VCX8tpIvAXZmpigVbEwXVX1KycBFNAobCkhDkHrU-GkczJPsj68IB-bPVSS5NKtZWABpDNgsM0etzPSyKrwknoufQdtmgkDQ2cSrNWKXJs35l1frbKMeG87akHYztchdvcfrwgPnYD-3EV7fSwPn-I9_oWCkzZc9A14c-ekEFz=s1081" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="846" data-original-width="1081" height="250" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgo6GPUzV6kXgio12VCX8tpIvAXZmpigVbEwXVX1KycBFNAobCkhDkHrU-GkczJPsj68IB-bPVSS5NKtZWABpDNgsM0etzPSyKrwknoufQdtmgkDQ2cSrNWKXJs35l1frbKMeG87akHYztchdvcfrwgPnYD-3EV7fSwPn-I9_oWCkzZc9A14c-ekEFz=s320" width="320" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Listen! 'Sunn Amps...' full album</div><div style="text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="BLOG_video_class" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/y8bpeYQ-TxU" width="320" youtube-src-id="y8bpeYQ-TxU"></iframe></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Two random audience members played the final section of Earth's set! </div><div style="text-align: center;">Please comment if you know who either of them are.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiBAYyiODlTY3FksArYMCtgBtFS3pN5kqw7dYV61fz-Adp8vjS76jAqiHojHvYvSCSL5bnyHkhS5HznXlcyvA1S337zTA_pamRaTxvSdoXySuLv4kGMsANi11Q4jARW_TWfFHu6rXXePV7kizsh3ANfJ6IMTwX8hdKLqPYUn0DGY1YnK_cKoE9ZGe95=s562" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="553" data-original-width="562" height="315" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiBAYyiODlTY3FksArYMCtgBtFS3pN5kqw7dYV61fz-Adp8vjS76jAqiHojHvYvSCSL5bnyHkhS5HznXlcyvA1S337zTA_pamRaTxvSdoXySuLv4kGMsANi11Q4jARW_TWfFHu6rXXePV7kizsh3ANfJ6IMTwX8hdKLqPYUn0DGY1YnK_cKoE9ZGe95=s320" width="320" /></a></div></span><span style="font-family: arial;"><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">All photos by Mark Benny</div></span><p><br /><br /></p></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /><span style="font-family: arial;"><br /></span></div>BLACK OPERATIONShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10716726691642995625noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853275759444398332.post-40879892271514602192021-08-16T20:36:00.012-07:002021-12-29T09:06:04.358-08:00EARTH 'earth 2' album 1993 > '20 Years On' article/interview plus original release era articles/interviews, reviews, promo materials, etc<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><p style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b style="font-size: x-large;">The Unbearable Heaviness of Being<br /></b><i style="font-size: x-large;">Feeling Doom-Drone Classic Earth 2's Tremors 20 Years On<br /></i><span style="font-size: large;">by Dave Segal (December 2013)</span><br /><a href="https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-unbearable-heaviness-of-being/Content?oid=18503358">https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-unbearable-heaviness-of-being/Content?oid=18503358</a></p></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><span id="dropcap" style="border-bottom: none; box-sizing: border-box; float: left; font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 4.5rem; height: 60px; line-height: 1em; padding: 0px 5px 2px 0px; text-transform: uppercase; vertical-align: top;">C</span>an you feel it? That massive, mind-blotting buzz from the planet's core? That's <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2: Special Low Frequency Version</em>. Sub Pop released this record by Seattle duo Earth in early 1993. Its truculent tremors still ripple through the heavy-music underground. Nobody's made a big deal about 2013 being the landmark album's 20th anniversary. We need to redress this oversight. Admittedly, <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> is no <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Nevermind</em> in terms of sales (understatement, ahoy!), but its impact on subterranean metal may be just as historical as Nirvana's breakout LP has been in mainstream circles.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">On <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>, guitarist Dylan Carlson—with help from bassist Dave Harwell—invented ambient metal, a devouring swarm of down-tuned guitar and bass dirges that coalesced into a threnody for forward motion... and possibly the human race. Never has sonic stasis been so domineering and exhaustive. It is <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Metal Machine Music</em> as interpreted by a La Monte Young acolyte. Its infernal growl makes the Stooges' "We Will Fall" seem like sheerest New Age and Black Sabbath's "Iron Man" sound like bubblegum pop. Perhaps only Melvins' <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Lysol</em> rivals it for sheer mass. Unlike most metal, <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> insinuates doom. It needs no lyrics to convey the dread aura at its molten center. <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> pulverized metal's cartoonishness and took the genre to the ashram.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">To commemorate this vastly influential recording, <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">The Stranger</em> interviewed some of the key figures in the making of <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>, as well as a musician inspired by it. (Sub Pop boss Jonathan Poneman was unavailable for comment. Harwell did not respond to an interview request.)</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><br /></p><div class="interstitial-ad-1 ad pull-right" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; clear: right; color: #333333; float: right; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; text-align: start;"></div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">BRUCE PAVITT</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Sub Pop cofounder</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What were your first thoughts when you heard</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">?</b> The first time I heard the Earth tapes, I was struck by the conceptual nature of the tracks. Ambient metal. I was fascinated by the extreme nature and artistic vision of the band.</p><div class="interstitial-ad-2 ad pull-right" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; clear: right; color: #333333; float: right; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; text-align: start;"></div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Did you and Jonathan Poneman have any arguments about whether Sub Pop should release the album?</b> Jon and I both recognized that we needed some "sub" to go along with the "pop." It was important for the label to find a balance between the commercial and the adventurous.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Did</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">present any particularly difficult marketing problems? Do you know how many copies it's sold?</b> As for selling it, we felt that people would either get it or not. We didn't have high expectations. By allowing for elaborate packaging (double album, clear vinyl), we hoped that it would attract the interest of collectors and those who appreciated high-concept projects. At the time of release, we only pressed 2,000 copies of the record, which we knew would sell out. We did manage to sell some additional CDs... most likely another 2,000.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Do you view</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">as Sub Pop's most extreme release?</b> I do think that [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>] is the most extreme recording ever put out by Sub Pop.</p><div class="interstitial-ad-3 ad pull-right" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; clear: right; color: #333333; float: right; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; text-align: start;"></div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Where do you think</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">fits in the grand scheme of rock music?</b> I've always felt very proud of <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>. In the grand scheme of rock music, I think it stands next to <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Metal Machine Music</em> by Lou Reed. Conceptual, ambient, challenging. My favorite Earth memory is when they opened up for the Ultra Lame Fest show at the Paramount in '92. Although they opened for more popular bands like Mudhoney, it was amazing to see them perform for a sold-out crowd at such a prestigious venue.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><br /></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">DYLAN CARLSON</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth mastermind</b></p><div class="interstitial-ad-4 ad pull-right" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; clear: right; color: #333333; float: right; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; text-align: start;"></div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What was your state of mind when you went into the studio to record</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">?</b> There were a couple of ideas. We'd already done long songs. So we wanted to do one album-length piece. Unfortunately, this was before Pro Tools; you only get 30 minutes max per reel of tape, running at 15 ips [inches per second]. That's why there are three parts to [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>]. At the time we were doing that, the CD was like 75 minutes long, and we wanted to fill the entire CD. Those were two of the parameters we were working with. The first stuff we had done at a little eight-track studio. This was our first time using two-inch tape, so we wanted to use every track. The idea was to try to make it as big as the live thing that we did. It's funny, because when I was working with Stuart [Hallerman of Avast! Recording Company] again on <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Angels of Darkness</em>, we were talking about how if we had to do that album now, how differently we would have gone about it. We loaded all our gear in there that we used in the live show, then turned everything up and did a bunch of stuff that is technically incorrect [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">laughs</em>]. We mic'd all the speakers individually and ran them to separate tracks. It turns out there's a bunch of fade cancellation and stuff like that that we didn't take into account. And then realizing later on that if you crank up a small amp in the studio and record it, it'll sound bigger than cranking up a big amp in the studio. So we basically set up and played live with that crazy mic'ing going on. Any tracks that weren't filled later, we went back and did some overdubs.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What was the rationale behind using drums very sparingly?</b> We didn't have a drummer at the time, and I got tired of programming the drum machine. The first two tracks, when we played 'em live, had a drum machine, but I didn't really want to record with the drum machine. And I figured it would take tracks away from guitar.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">The idea was to come up with overwhelming waves of guitar and bass?</b> Yeah. On ["Like Gold and Faceted"], we tried to have some drums, but it didn't work out well, so we ended up using cymbal washes, but that was it for percussion.</p><div class="interstitial-ad-5 ad pull-right" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; clear: right; color: #333333; float: right; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; text-align: start;"></div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Did you conceive of this album as having a functional value, as the text on the back of the record suggests?</b> That kind of came after we did it, when I was coming up with the cover. I had worked at a record store at the time [Peaches, then Beehive], over there on 45th. I grabbed a bunch of stuff when I worked there, and a series of meditational cassettes Atlantic Records did in the '70s caught my eye. It seemed to fit the mood. There was one that was sea sounds, one that was nature sounds. It went along with a series of Medical records that I had. Stuart mentioned that our songs seemed to be part of something else; they fade up and fade out, but sound like they keep going. I like that idea. It would be like this was a record that was part of a series. But I don't know where the series is; this is the only one that survived. It's funny when I listen to <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>—not that I listen to it that often or anything—we were trying to make this really huge record, but in a weird way it has this claustrophobic feel to me. Because of the way we did it, it has this weird murkiness. If I had to do it now, it would sound a lot more expansive.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Do you ever perform those songs live anymore?</b> No. We haven't played those in many a moon.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Is it because you don't want to wallow in nostalgia or is it because you're so far out of that mind-set?</b> Some people had mentioned the idea of us doing that this year. Since Earth is still a going concern, I don't really want to do that. I'm not really into that idea. It would be one thing if Earth had stopped at a certain point and we were coming back. But the fact that we're still going, revisiting stuff... I mean, we revisit stuff in the live set, but when we do 'em, they're updated and altered for the situation. With <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>, those would be really hard to do that with because they're just one thing. I don't feel the need to repeat it. I'd like to be the one band that's not playing an album from 20 years ago. [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Laughs</em>] It makes sense to me if you're a band that has a hit or hits back then and you're playing the hits for the fans. [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>] is not like that. It's funny how so many people now are like, "<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>, <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>," but at the time, not many people got it.</p><div class="interstitial-ad-6 ad pull-right" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; clear: right; color: #333333; float: right; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; text-align: start;"></div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">It's acquired this [reputation] rather than starting out thinking it was this. People may view it as a seminal work, and that's great. I'm glad people like it, but I still feel there are better Earth records and more to come. So maybe if Earth in the future are doing a last tour, maybe then we'd break it out. But until then, I really don't want to do that.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What about the photograph in the inner part of the CD with you and Dave Harwell aiming the guns at the camera? It seems at odds with everything else on the cover.</b> We were both firearms enthusiasts. It was a jarring bit of aggression in what was otherwise a fairly soporific album cover. [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Laughs</em>]</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Whose work is that on the front cover?</b> I had originally picked out some other photos from a book, but trying to get the licensing from the photographer was proving difficult. So I went through a book of stock photography with Art Aubrey. They weren't free, but there was just a flat fee. I tried to find photos that were close to the ones originally wanted, which were from this travel book about India. There was a picture of this castle in Rajasthan that has all these little mini towers hanging off the wall. The pill bottles had the same effect. Obviously at the time I had narcotic interests. [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Laughs</em>] The front photo is a picture of Mongolia.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Do you view</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">as the band's ultimate statement?</b> Maybe the first iteration of the band, but even then I'm not sure, because <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Pentastar</em> I really like a lot. But I don't think it's Earth's ultimate statement. That's another thing about redoing stuff like that—a record is a snapshot of a certain time and mental state and environment. You can't re-create that. There was some talk of doing <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> stuff again this year. The only idea that sounded cool to me, I had been talking with Lori [Goldston] about doing an arrangement of it for strings and an orchestra. Something like that would be appealing to me more than a "here we are cranking out the hits on tour" kind of thing.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">If an avant-garde classical ensemble could do</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Metal Machine Music</strong></em><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">, it seems like you could get</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">into some slightly different context and it would sound just as good.</b> There was talk with ATP about doing that. It's okay to mention now because it never happened. It looked like it wasn't going to work out. They could sense I wasn't super-psyched about it. The logistics were proving to be difficult.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What did your musician friends—particularly Kurt Cobain—think of</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">when it came out?</b> Kurt was kind of in the midst of exploding. [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Laughs</em>] Nirvana were not in town very much at that time. You never really know when you play stuff for your friends: They say they like it, but who knows? I can like people and not like their band, but a lot of people you can't do that with. They think that if you like them as friends and you say you don't like their band, they get all huffy or get in a snit about it. I've always been like, I can like you as a friend, but I don't have to dig what you do musically.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Whatever happened to Dave Harwell? I tried to contact him, but he never responded.</b> I see him every now and then—not as buds, but around town. This one time I saw him a couple of years ago, I said, "What's up?" and he acted like I didn't exist. [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Laughs</em>] For some reason, he and Joe Preston have some ax to grind. I've never quite figured out why. Back then, there were people I actually fucked over, and I get along with them fine now. Slim Moon, too... I don't know what I did that made them so angry at me. I've never had any ill will toward any of them. I don't know what's up.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Do you think that this album has received its proper due from critics?</b> It's not for me to say what its proper due is. People seem to revere it and mention it quite highly. A lot of people say they were influenced by it. I can't complain. I'm glad people dig it. It took a while, but it's always nice when your work is appreciated.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Do you think</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">was the hardest one to accomplish of all your albums, or the easiest? Hallerman said you guys would join him in the control room while the guitar and bass were going. He was kind of surprised.</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> went pretty easily. (A) The budget was small; (B) we didn't have a ton of studio time. The first two tracks we'd played live, so we had 'em pretty down. The hardest part was playing the first two without any rhythms, since we had a rhythm track to play it live. That was the most difficult aspect of it. And then trying to figure out the weird ways to get as many tracks as possible without... Nowadays, obviously, I would book studio time and do a lot of overdubbing, whereas back then we didn't have that luxury, so we have to get all these at once—especially trying to overdub on a 15- or 20-minute track. It's not like you can do a lot of punch-ins and stuff. It would get pretty messy and mind-warping. But it did go pretty smoothly. The fact that we were young and Stuart was young and willing to try crazy stuff that we'd probably know better about now helped. We were excited to be in the studio with someone paying for our record to be made rather than us paying for it.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Do you remember how Sub Pop reacted when they first heard the record?</b> My relationship with Sub Pop had always sort of been with Bruce, who was the more adventurous, experimental guy. Jonathan's strengths were knowing what would sell—he definitely had an ear for pop and hard rock. They seemed into it, especially Bruce. Bruce asked us to be on the label. They put a lot of effort into it. They did the nice vinyl version and made some nice shirts for it. It didn't get a lot of reviews at the time, other than British press. I remember being excited because the header said, "Slow Death, Immense Decay." Any reference to a Slayer song in a review of something I did I was pretty happy about.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><br /></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">STUART HALLERMAN</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2 engineer, owner of Avast! Recording Company</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Can you discuss the recording sessions for</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">? Did things go smoothly? What was the mood like in the studio when the tracks were being laid down?</b> It went quite smoothly. They had a plan laid out. It was mostly the two of them—Dave and Dylan. Some things took me by surprise. After tuning up their guitars and getting a good roar going, it was time to get the first bass and guitar tracks; I walked back to the control room, and they followed me there and sat down and said it was time to roll tape [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">laughs</em>]. The guitars were being played by EBows out there. Okay, interesting. I hit "record," and that was the bed of the first piece of music. Then they went back to retune their guitars and got the EBows going again and again followed me back into the control room. They said, "All right, that'll be our second track." I thought, "What have I gotten myself into here? This is going to be the most boring week on earth." It was already an interesting mood there, but as soon as the layers of the two instruments two times were there, the magic tapestry began to appear. So while filling reels of tape with sounds that way, it was a very relaxed vibe. I wish more days went by like that.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Were there overdubs or was it all just done in real time? Did you go back later and do some editing?</b> They did the background tapestry of the layers of drones and EBow tracks and they did multitrack layers of riffs and parts over that that they played. It was done to tape—two-inch 16-track back in those days. No editing, really.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Did this music present any special challenges to you? It seemed pretty unprecedented up to that point.</b> Patience. One of the stated things of Earth at the time was to out-Melvin the Melvins. I'm appreciative of both the fast Melvins and later the slow Melvins, but that was a noble experiment.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Did you feel like something momentous was happening during the recording of</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">? Did it stand out among the sessions you'd done?</b> Not in the way the question would necessarily be wanting me to say, "Yeah." To me, it just seemed like this really cool drone record that I personally liked when it was done. I'd put it on in my living room for roommates or friends or visitors at appropriate moments—maybe late at night or just at a certain place in the evening—put this on and people would say, "What's this?" They'd pay attention to it and then give me this weird look, like, "Why are you doing this to us?" Four minutes later, they'd say, "This is cool." They'd relax into it.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">To me, it was almost a parlor trick or experimental music, lovely in its own little porcupine way. It faded into obscurity, and then [in 2003 Autofact Records] reissued it and the label wanted me to write liner notes for it. I had a story or two—the preproduction meeting and first day of the session and whatnot, a few anecdotes, a short remembrance of the making of. Then, while checking the spelling of the members, I learned that unbeknownst to me, in the intervening years, around the world, people were doing doom-drone rock. I was pretty unaware of that. I knew about Sunn O))) and Boris and stuff like that, but didn't really get that there was this whole genre of this stuff. It might've even been before Sunn O))) and Boris. The momentous thing was there, but I was certainly taken by surprise that anyone had noticed or had spawned a genre.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Has anything you've worked on since then surpassed</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">in sheer intensity and heaviness?</b> Sunn O))) and Boris, the planets that orbit around Earth. There's some bombastic stuff that attempts to out-Melvins Earth. There was a Sunn O)))/Boris split record and one of the joking ideas was to release it instead of in a 5.1 surround sound, in 1.5 mono plus five subwoofers. For a moment we thought, "Why wouldn't we do that?" There was a mocking one-tenth-serious proposal to do that with the Sunn O)))/Boris split.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><br /></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">STEPHEN O'MALLEY</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Guitarist for Earth-influenced band Sunn O)))</b></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What thoughts were going through your mind the first time you heard</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">? What sort of associations did this music trigger in your head?</b> I was living in a house in the U-District. A friend of mine, Curtis Pitts, worked at Sub Pop. He'd come over and hang out. I lived with six people at one of these terrible college houses. He brought over a promo of <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>. He wanted to give it to me because Dylan was wearing a Morbid Angel T-shirt on the promo photo. I was really into death metal. He thought I would respond to it. I did, but in a quite different way. I think I was 19 or something. It was my first year at the University of Washington. I was totally getting into LSD and black metal, as a graduation from death metal. <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> was very different from anything I'd heard before. It kind of fit into that frame somehow. I didn't have any real experience with experimental music, so probably like a lot of people who got into that, we were coming from metal. It's kind of a gateway into minimalist music and experimental music—something that now over the years I've been educated on. But at the time, hearing purely instrumental guitar music was rare, especially in this format that I know now is referencing La Monte Young and raga music and various other types of meditational music. To a 19-year-old death-metal kid, it sounded like slow Slayer. Melvins had done some stuff like that, right around the same period, actually, but Melvins were always clearly a rock band. <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> was the most non-rock album that they did. It's the most abstract album they did. Although some of the rock stuff they did on <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Pentastar</em> is pretty abstract.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">I actually saw the Earth duo of Dylan and Dave Harwell play at that time at the Sub Pop Ultra Lame Fest. I think they played right before Mudhoney and right after Seaweed. Earth played some riffs that I recognized from <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>, but the audience was <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">not</em> into it. It was at the Paramount Theatre, and after a stage-diving Seaweed set, it was like, "What the fuck is this?" [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Laughs</em>]</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">Did</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">sound to you like an ultimate statement, a kind of ground zero for heavy music?</b> No, it never did. I think people give it more credit than it deserves. I think it's a great experimental record. I don't know if Dylan was trying to make an ultimate statement about music. I think he was trying to follow his ideas and interests into another area. Which is how he still does music. He follows his own path. People worship the past—especially art and music and literature and film. Various works are worshipped as being these pinnacles, and in some cases they were meant to be by the creators, but generally they pick up that reputation or presence after the creative process is done.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">I love [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>]; I was very educated by it as a guitar player and a musician, but I don't know if the album itself is really that important in that way. It affected some people. That band was put out on Sub Pop [because Carlson was Kurt Cobain's buddy]. Poneman and Pavitt wanted to please Kurt, so they put it out. Sub Pop didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Now, of course, they've re-pressed all these old records. When they actually came out, it was like, "Whatever," you know? "<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Bleach</em> sold another 50,000 copies; sure, we'll put out another Earth record. Whatever."</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">It may be one of the most interesting records the label put out, as far as minimalist music. There's not much minimalist music on that label. It's a great doorway, for someone coming from metal. It introduced New York minimalist music like Tony Conrad, Glenn Branca, guitar orchestra music, La Monte Young, the Western take on raga music. It still sounded heavy, like slowed-down Slayer, as it always was described, but it was drone music played with guitars, extremely long songs.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box;">What do you think about</b> <em style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</strong></em> <b style="box-sizing: border-box;">today, 20 years after its release? Do you think the album has gotten its due from the press and the public?</b> I think it's a historical album, and what more could you ask? It's 20 years later, and people still consider it to be a very important record. Every time Sunn O))) puts out a record, [<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em>] gets mentioned—which is a compliment for us. It's a tower in the musical world. I don't know if it's due anything. Earth got its due when Dylan re-formed the band and turned it into a real band, who produced a lot more music that's more important than that album, actually. That Earth has continued to make interesting, compelling music on their own terms, that's more important. It's nice to have <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Earth 2</em> in the background.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; margin: 0px 0px 10.5px; text-align: start;">When I was a teenager, I was into hardcore. But then I got really into death metal with a couple of friends. 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"A series of four 55 minute films shown on Channel 4 TV in the UK in early 1992. To say this was the best and most intelligent analysis of improvisation to be screened on UK television is probably unnecessary: it has in all likelihood been the only televised programme on this form of music-making. Written and narrated by Derek Bailey, produced and directed by Jeremy Marr, it developed out of the first edition of Bailey's book on improvisation (the broadcast almost coinciding with the publication of the second edition) and attempted to provide a world-view of the subject, not being bound by country, musical genre or preconception."</div>
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Broadcast 2 February 1992 this programme featured: Douglas Ewart at Haynes School in Chinatown, Chicago; improvisation in Mozart with Robert Levin, piano and the Acadamy of Ancient Music with Christopher Hogwood; John Zorn and Cobra; improvisation in religious and devotional music and communities with: Naji Hakim - organ improvisations in Paris; Gaelic psalm singing on the Scottish Isles of Harris and Lewis; and Indian singing with Pundit Hanuman Misra.</div>
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Broadcast 9 February 1992, tracing the effects of migration on improvising links across continents and the production of new styles from the combinations: qawwali from the Sufis in New Delhi, Northern India; Hindu music of Rajistan with Ram Narayan; early medieval music performed in Andalucia by Symphony (Stevie Wishart, Mark Loopuy, Jim Denley); improvisation in dance with: Mario Maya, flamenco; Indian kathak mime and movement; and Egyptian gypsy music; the mixture of Cuban music and jazz with Eddie Palmieri.</div>
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Broadcast 16 February 1992, concentrating on jazz based and free improvisation. With Max Roach at the Harlam School of the Arts; Butch Morris conducting (with, among others, Shelley Hirsch); Sang-Won Park and Korean music; Max Eastley's sound sculptures; Derek Bailey (solo and fleetingly with Phil Wachsmann, Steve Noble and Alex Ward); Steve Noble and Alex Ward duo; Nashville musicians including Buddy Emmons; Eugene Chadbourne.</div>
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Broadcast 23 February 1992, with Jerry Garcia and The Grateful Dead; Buddy Guy; George Lewis and computers (and in quartet with Douglas Ewart and sound and video generation); mbira music from Zimbabwe; music of the Tonga people; concluding with a house party on the Lower East side.</div>
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<b>ELECTRIC YOUTH: The teen-pop phenomenon is a...</b><br />
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ELECTRIC YOUTH: The teen-pop phenomenon is a certifiable pop trend, but 9-year-old J.P. Toulon of Madison, Wis., doesn’t want to wait until he’s a teen-ager to make his mark on the music scene.<br />
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So Toulon formed a rock group, Old Skull, which has released an album and is set to play two local dates this week.<br />
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But don’t look for Old Skull at Tomorrowland Terrace in Disneyland. The group, which also includes Toulon’s younger brother, Jamie, 7, and his friend Jesse Colins-Davies, 9, doesn’t play poppy kid-stuff like New Kids on the Block or teen-dream ballads like Debbie Gibson. Old Skull bills itself as the world’s youngest punk band. Its rallying cry: “Tiffany can kiss our (rear)!”<br />
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The group, scheduled to play Monday at the Club With No Name and Tuesday at Bogart’s, just released its debut album, “Get Outta School.”<br />
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All of which has made Toulon the B.M.O.C. of his fourth-grade class.<br />
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“They think it’s pretty cool now that we have a record out,” he said by phone from Madison. Toulon added that his parents have been pretty cool too. “They just say, ‘Don’t throw your equipment into the audience,’ ” he reports.<br />
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Toulon’s father Vern, 34, is also in a local band, the Meek. But his band doesn’t have a record deal.<br />
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“I’ve only been playing twice as long as he’s been alive,” said Dad. “But hey, it’s cool. And if the L.A. dates lead to a full-scale tour, we could open for them.”<br />
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<i>PEOPLE article - September 18th 1989</i><br />
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<b>Those Precocious Young Bloods in Old Skull Are the Only Punk Rockers with a 9 O'Clock Bedtime</b><br />
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<i>by PEOPLE staff</i><br />
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They are every baby-sitter’s nightmare: three leather-lunged boys who curse with abandon, never sit still and just can’t get their hands on enough stuff to break. But Jesse Collins-Davies, 10, J.P. Toulon, 10, and his brother Jamie, 8, haven’t been sent to their rooms for their antics—they’ve gotten a record contract instead. Together they are Old Skull, the world’s youngest punk band.<br />
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Old Skull got its start three years ago in Madison, Wis., when the boys began jamming with the blessings of their dads, Robin Davies, a rock bass player, and Verne Toulon, who plays in a local rock band. By the time executives at Restless Records in L.A. heard one of their tapes, the trio had perfected what company talent recruiter Ron Goudie calls their “insightful and unpolluted” sound. Their debut album, Get Outta School, was released in June and has sold some 10,000 copies.<br />
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Old Skull’s members admit to a certain lack of polish. J.P, for instance, can’t play all the chords on his guitar. “It sounds better that way,” he says. And Jamie, Jesse claims, “doesn’t do nothin’ but smash on metal.” (“I do too,” Jamie counters.) The boys do write their own material—songs ranging from the gritty “Kick Ass” (“We’re gonna kick ass ’cause my dad said so”) to the more civic-minded “AIDS” and “Homeless.” This summer they strutted their stuff at the Ritz nightclub in New York and on MTV. Says J.P.: “We got to smash our equipment and blow away people’s speakers.”<br />
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Back home, life is generally calmer. The band practices once a month in the Toulons’ basement in preparation for weekend gigs around Wisconsin. They spend their free time skateboarding and are in bed by 9ish. And should their new fame start to go to their heads, there is always school to keep them in line. “The principal won’t let us play our music anymore because we say ‘hell’ and ‘ass,’ ” says J.P “I sort of see what he means.”BLACK OPERATIONShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10716726691642995625noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853275759444398332.post-25402242280670729352020-05-07T15:25:00.000-07:002020-05-09T07:58:10.816-07:00OLD SKULL 'Prepubescent Punk' article - Mother Jones magazine (Oct 1989)<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">http://www.worcesterphoenix.com/archive/music/99/04/30/ON_THE_ROCKS.html</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Satan and a six-pack</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif"><br /></span><span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Spoken about in hushed tones, and known chiefly as that band in perpetual hiding in their rehearsal space, Upsidedown Cross have been one of the seven hills' more mysterious pieces of music folklore. Thought to have broken up -- they haven't played a Worcester date in nearly eight years -- the inverted ones, it turns out, have been biding their time, waiting to unleash their Satanic asses on the scene just as the millennium approaches. Kinda like the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, only with beer breath. Oh, and they've been touring the country at-will, where they're generally considered quite a legendary act, indeed. They've also acquired a knack for not being invited back a second time, having recently been bounced from New York's Coney Island High after a total of 45 seconds on stage -- they blew the club's power. Just another day at the shop for the boys.</span><br />
<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"We sometimes have problems like that," says founding frontman Larry Lifeless. "Once we were in Boston and somebody lit one of our props on fire. But we just kept playing, who gives a shit? They did close the club down when the fire department came."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Since forming some 10 years ago from the ashes of Kilslug (Cheez on bass is the other original Crosser. The new line-up also has Dirty Ed on guitar, Bobgod on the drums, MacNamara on lead guitar, and Hobit on the keyboard), Upsidedown Cross have spent a career battling against convention and occasionally shooting themselves in the foot, all in the name of putting on a show. A typical performance could include live earthworms on Madonna statues, or the band could bust-up a makeshift alter or spray fire extinguishers full of pee at folks. They take their entertainment very seriously. As Cheez explains, "We're a horri-metal band. Not horrible, horror-metal, so we're gonna put on a spectacle. It's taken us six weeks to get ready for this [they play this Friday at Lucky Dog] show. There are a lot of props. We like props!"</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Which, from where we sit, is true. Their rehearsal space includes a CVS bag full of small religious pamphlets and prayer books, a couple of crosses (upside-down, natch) on the wall, including a lovely six-footer with HATE painted on it. In a cardboard box are a couple statues of Mary, a tile wall-hanging depicts a Bible passage, there's a so-far unbreakable Last Supper scene and a load of plastic bubble wrap on which the band like to paint. Evil stuff, this desecration business. But in talking to the guys, you don't get the feeling they're slated for a trip to Hell. Burger King, maybe, definitely the package store, but not Hell.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">And their music says the same thing. Their third album, Witchcraft (Final Injection), is certainly tuff and dark and, well, evil; but there's also a touch of wink-and-nudge in Larry Lifeless's lyrics, which are a nasal, in-and-out-of-key, buzzbomb, squawk of a delivery. While songs like "Fire" are at the core a bit disturbed, lyrics like "At the coffee shop/Said it was a pot/Left on the stove/Became too hot" make it more of a stoner-Sabbath vibe that the band ride -- though Lifeless is always up for fixating on the power of Satan or witch burning, arson, and inner voices. It's just as much a flat-out hoot as it is demonic.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Having originally released two discs on Taang! in the early '90s (they signed a seven-album deal but bailed after getting screwed moneywise) with alt-hero J. Mascis on drums, the Cross have been through numerous line-ups, settling into this newest incarnation just six months ago.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"Everyone else either a) had a breakdown or b) were crybabies who couldn't stand alcohol abuse or c) crazier than we were," Cheez explains while fetching a round of beer. "[The current group] were all friends who had known each other for years. It just came together. We've already got stuff. Four songs are recorded, and we'll do five or six more and try to shop it to labels."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"That thing with Taang!, we lost our publishing rights, they took everything," adds Lifeless. "The bright part of the story is we have a new law firm -- the Trench Coat Mafia. They're going to San Diego to talk to Taang!"</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">The band's prolonged absence from the Worcester scene seems to come down to the simple choice of not wanting to bother to hunt down a gig. They remember the days of Worcester past when the hair-metal bands ruled Green Street. It made more sense to practice for cheap in town, then take it out on the road.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"We really didn't play Worcester cuz we thought there was nothing here for us," says Cheez. "We went to Austin and California and New York. All these other places have better food. We're on the menu tour."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"The band has been everything from a two-piece to a 10-piece. I've been to the rottenest places where it was 120 degrees to awful places with three feet of snow," expounds Lifeless on the band's long, strange road and general shitty luck. "We broke down in Nevada and didn't even realize prostitution was legal till the day we left!"</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Why the band continue on is a no-brainer. They love to drink, eat Chinese food, rehearse, hang out, and, mostly, entertain. You may love it, you may hate it, but you won't soon forget an Upsidedown Cross show. Which is the chief reason they want a record deal -- more props. As Cheez readily agrees, "We want bigger props. We need more lights and a six-foot wall of flame. Fuckin' A! That's why I wanna get signed. Big Props!"</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"Nobody would mind making some money, we're making nothing," says a more reserved Dirty Ed. "Right now we're just entertainment for the masses that dare to step close enough."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">On one recent night, the sound of a beat-challenged drummer reverberates from near the entrance, while metal power-riffing ping-pongs off the concrete from somewhere around the corner and down the hall. The overhead lighting buzzes with the impending death throes inherent to fluorescent tubes. And the bathroom, decorated in Early Filth, emits an odor of a thousand misaimed whizzes. With a latticework of cobwebs that hangs just low enough to make you duck -- and with the festival of urine stink, which has leached deep into the walls -- any trip here is an adventure into potential horror. It also gives the phrase "bowels of a building" an entirely different meaning.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Standing in the hallway with an admitted narcotics jag on is Cheez Fetachini (his spelling), bass player of Upsidedown Cross. If any band are a natural fit in the surrounding squalor they are the men of the Cross. A wall of empty beer cans, smashed religious artifacts, and a lead singer propped up in the corner with green face goo smeared across his puss -- their rehearsal room is the equivalent of Dante's clubhouse. Equal parts gentleman-hosts and sick bastards, Cheez and his crew now find they're the unwitting poster boys for a local fight over free speech that threatens the future of Worcester's outdoor concerts. Arguably the city's most controversial band (this May, they were bounced from the Lucky Dog at their first local show in nine years after a relatively mild-by-comparison set that included tossing out 2000 spider rings and 200 painted bagels, and busting a bunch of Virgin Mary statues), they stand as the odds-on-favorite to elicit the city's (unconstitutional) wrath at this weekend's MAFIO Summer Music Fest. Fueled by the complaints of, arguably, the privileged few (namely, Green Hill golfers), the Cross, as well as all outdoor performers this summer, could have their shows shut down by the city if musicians engage in the ill-defined act of "vulgarity" or if they use "profanity" on stage.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">PERHAPS THE PUBLICITY couldn't have come at a better time for the Inverted Ones. They have yet another fine, new album with their impending Hate (they're fourth release) and virtually no chance of getting booked at a Worcester club. Yet the band are looking to get back to the level of international success enjoyed when they were on Taang! Records. Though originally signed to a five-record deal, UDX (whose drummer at the time was alterna-grunge god J. Mascis) bailed after two releases, unhappy with their relationship with Taang!. They've since started the Final Injection imprint and have finally managed to keep a solid line-up together.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"We don't want to jinx it, but we've heard from clubs in Chile that want us to come down. [Hopefully], they'll let us do a regular show without being harassed like we are here in the Northeast," says Cheez. "But they're very religious in South America, so who knows?"</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">In the meantime, the band as infamous as their HQ have made a name for themselves -- based chiefly on rumor and perceived lifestyle -- in the Worcester-based musicians collective Musicians and Friends International Organization (MAFIO). Less than a year old, MAFIO has quickly become a local force, a support system for local entertainers and a platform to discuss music-related topics Through it, musicians trade information (everything from designing a press kit to sharing media contacts); it also acts as a talent pool for bands looking to flesh out line-ups. Embracing a variety of music styles, MAFIO (which is 50-bands strong) will hold what can be considered its coming-out party this Saturday in a 22-band free-for-all at Cristoforo Columbo Park. Everyone from Mingo's and Billy Pain's homegrown hip-hop to Critical Condition's three-chord pop punk to Gangsta Bitch Barbie's rapcore will be represented.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">That Upsidedown Cross will be there is equal parts shit luck and fate.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"Basically Lloyd [Plumstead, MAFIO's chief architect] came down to the rehearsal space and said he'd buy us free drinks [if we came to a meeting], so that's why we went down," says Cross guitarist Dirty Ed. "When we got down there, we found cool bands and a cool agenda, and we've been there for every meeting. One band can only do so much, but 20 or 30 bands working together is more power to us."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Upsidedown Cross are easily MAFIO's most unsettling act, if for no other reason than most people miss the obvious tongue-in-cheek aspect to all that devil loving (how anyone could get their undies in a twist over lyrics like "Kill for Satan/Why are you waitin'" is almost as absurd as the sentiment itself). But the band even have other MAFIO members walking on eggshells. Because the city's Parks Commission has ruled that it will pull the plug on the show for anything interpreted (by city officials who vowed to monitor the show) as vulgar -- some bands sheepishly have suggested the Cross not be allowed on the bill.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">The commission's threat is an edict that could conceivably affect not only MAFIO's showcase this weekend, but also September's annual Locobazooka Festival (which last year drew an audience of more than 10,000; this year, headliners include Primus and Type O Negative) and any potential future shows on city-owned land.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"Profanity was a major concern. Everything must be in good taste," says Plumstead. In meeting with the Parks Commission, deputy commissioner Rob Antonelli told MAFIO representatives that there would be one warning and one warning only before the show was forced to close. The commission also requested that the PA system be equipped with a kill switch, and Plumstead is required to carry a cell phone so he'll be in direct contact with the city throughout the day-long Shrewsbury Street event.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"If they received complaints from the citizens they would ask us -- actually, they would tell us -- to shut down," relates MAFIO board member Alan Gomes, whose son Matt plays in the pop/punk trio Critical Condition, whose upcoming disc is titled, appropriately enough, Censorship Sucks. Says the younger Gomes of the city's stance, "I plan to stick with it, but with reservation. I don't like limitations because it takes away from how you can express yourself."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Critical ConditionHow the city came to willfully suggest it may steamroll the US Constitution in favor of good, clean fun is actually little more than the result of last year's Locobazooka, which met head on with city Councilor Tim Cooney's golf game. While on the links near the all-day Green Hill Park festival, Cooney heard a band of questionable moral turpitude apparently infringe (several sources say a musician screamed "shit" while on stage) upon his right to putt in peace. When Loco's promoter Dan Hartwell later returned to City Hall to present Worcester with its cut (since the festival's inception, Hartwell has donated funds to benefit the city's pools and zoo), Cooney went unceremoniously bonkers. Fortunately for Hartwell, Councilor Stacey Luster made quick work of Cooney by dropping the word "censorship."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"I made a big stink, but it was pretty vulgar," says Cooney of the Back Nine Incident. "If it's in a confined area in a building [that] is one thing, but neighborhoods shouldn't be subjected to it."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Though Cooney acknowledges there were no neighborhood complaints the day of the show, after his chamber-floor outburst, "other people [brought the foul language] up to me . . . mostly golfers.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"I think [the Parks Commission] has curtailed [Hartwell] and sent him a message that it's up to him to control his performers. You can still have your entertainment, but not at other people's expense. I'm not against people enjoying themselves, but the offendee has certain rights, too. They're on taxpayer's property."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">As in the people's land. And that's the Big Oops that makes the potential shutdown by the city ripe for a lawsuit should it decide to act on the threat. While their intent may be noble in theory, it isn't within the city's rights to curtail what is only morally objectionable language. As comedian Lenny Bruce ultimately proved (in what cost him his livelihood, and finally his life) one man's profanity is another man's descriptive; and filthy is in the eye of the beholder. Not in 35 years (since Bruce's obscenity convictions were overturned by the US Supreme Court) has an entertainer been convicted of obscenity.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"The problem is one, what is profanity? The second issue is who decides what profanity is? The third problem is there is no legal definition of profanity, so there is no reasonable enforcement for standards," says American Civil Liberties Union Worcester chapter director Ronal Madnick. "What's profanity to a police officer may not be profane to someone else."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">While members of MAFIO agree to stay within the perimeters of the Parks Commission's request -- Hartwell too reports that this year's Locobazooka line-up is also falling into line -- it's only for fear that failure to comply could lead to more serious consequences than simply shutting down a show. There is an undercurrent that future promotions could run into considerable resistance when it comes time to grant the necessary permits.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"I've checked into the legality of it," says Hartwell. "[Legal action] would blow up Locobazooka, and then there wouldn't be a concert. And that would be too bad because it took years [to get to this level], and the city deserves a good show."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">The city's attempt to shield our ears is ultimately naïve. Call it the eroding of the value system, blame it on Jerry Springer, point the finger at Hollywood -- but, frankly, the language in question no longer carries the weight it once did on the shock-o-meter. Unfortunate to face for some, but it's a fact. As Madnick readily adds, "A lot of people use the F-word in normal speech! It's not that shocking anymore. People can roll up the window of the car, or run quickly by. [As for pulling the plug], I don't know if they can do that."</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">Which brings us back to Upsidedown Cross. Having spent a career blasting their toes off in the name of putting on a great show, they realize all eyes are on them. MAFIO is holding its breath, Hartwell is a little nervous, and the Parks Commission waits to see what it will do if, in fact, it's confronted with on-stage obscenity. Though the Cross's music rarely contains classic profanity, it is chock full of what is considered blasphemous rhetoric. And no show is complete unless crucifixes are hurled into the crowd, religious icons smashed, and Satan gets his proper. How this next performance will all play out is anyone's guess.</span><br />
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<span face=""arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif">"Actually we talked to the city to find out what we can and can't do without getting arrested, and we don't want to get shut down. We won't be smashing Mother Marys, we'll be smashing blue `ghosts,'" says Cheez with a smile. "[Even MAFIO] is afraid we'll do something totally fucked-up. Dan Hartwell said if it doesn't go right, we're gonna wreck outdoor shows. But it will still be interesting -- mayhem, destruction, and the ballsy-est Cross show to be seen yet . . . without swearing."</span><br />
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BLACK OPERATIONShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10716726691642995625noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853275759444398332.post-6238680262282445782020-03-17T13:53:00.000-07:002020-03-17T14:03:48.480-07:00VAGINA DENTATA ORGAN article - Record Collector magazine #405 (Sept 2012)<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">VAGINA DENTATA ORGAN provoke outrage. But their highly collectable records are serious comments on modern society Freek Kinkelaar reports</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Anyone who uses the slogan “The most fanatical band in the world” has some explaining to do. However, Vagina Dentata Organ (VDO) don’t offer explanations. They simply offer us our society as they see it. VDO’s records have been the focus of heated discussion over the years. “We sell blood, sex, life and death – at a price” is another much-cited quote. VDO’s records do indeed sell for extreme prices, but their content is equally extreme and uncompromising. The more conservative press has been keen to use moral statements such as “shocking” and “disgusting” for VDO – the very same words used to describe The Rolling Stones in the early 60s.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">VDO is a one-man concept, but certainly not a one-trick pony, centered around Barcelona born Jordi Valls. Moving from Spain to the UK in the late 70s, Valls caught the London punk movement in its prime and, like so many, became enthralled by the ruthless rawness and anarchy of the first generation punk bands. In 1978 he bumped into Throbbing Gristle’s Genesis P-Orridge in the street, resulting in Valls organising several TG gigs in London.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">With a keen interest and talent in communication, Valls’ name soon started appearing in articles about TG, Come Organization and Whitehouse in magazines, gig flyers and on radio programmes. The Whitehouse connection, with Valls managing them in the early 80s, led to Valls’ appearance on their hugely collectable 1982 Psychopathia Sexualis album, where he introduces each track in his native language, Catalan. That year, he inspired Boyd Rice (aka NON) to record the track Fatal Dentro De Un Auto, based on a car accident Valls experienced in the early 80s. The track was released on NON’s 12” single Rise (Mute 015, Ј15). In 1983, Valls voiced Catalan, a track on Psychic TV’s Dreams Less Sweet. This, in turn, led to a collaboration with cineaste Derek Jarman on the short movie Catalan, the cinematic reconstruction of Valls’ car accident, using the actual car Valls had the accident in. It was found at a scrapyard – with dry blood still inside it.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Enjoying these experiences, Valls thought up the concept of Vagina Dentata Organ; a project as unpredictable as Valls himself. Combining the 20s surrealism of Andrй Breton, Salvador Dalн and Luis BuÑuel with some added grotesquery and some Hieronymus Bosch thrown in, Valls’ first release, the album Music For The Hashishins, consisted solely of the sounds of growling made by dogs trained to kill. The album, released on Valls’ label WSNS (World Satanic Network System), caused quite a stir in 1983. The Hashishins were a fearless and violent Persian order, dating from around 1200, from whose name the modern word “assassin” has been derived. Despite a reissue of the album on Psychic TV’s Temple label, originals are still verymuch in demand. The record is an uncompromising statement; a boot in the bollocks of accepted standards in ethics and aesthetics. However, VDO’s next album would put it in the shade.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">The Last Supper caused a storm of outrage in 1984. With a picture disc featuring photographs of People’s Temple cult leader Jim Jones and the victims of the November 1978 mass suicide in French Guyana, and the sound itself featuring actual and unedited recordings made on the night of the suicide, “reality or nothing” seemed to be Valls’ motto. Each picture disc was numbered for a victim; 912 in total. Much like SPK’s urge to “expose the cathedral of death”, VDO too left no stone, no truth unturned. On the wave of notoriety, the LP sold out quickly and is extremely collectable today. Some copies included a transcript of Jim Jones’ words, persuading his followers to “take the poison” and urging them to “go to sleep”. It’s a shocking document of religious blindness.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">That same year, the second VDO picture disc appeared; a live recording of a ancient ritual in the village of Calanda (Spain), where every year at Easter over 2,000 drums are beaten for two days non-stop. The skins of the drums are stained with the blood of the drummers’ hands. Some of the discs featured Valls’ own blood encapsulated on the disc. There are, however, also copies with fake blood, identifiable by their off-brown color, which, although slightly more common, still fetch well over Ј150. Around 12 copies were hand-decorated by Valls and given to friends and family. 1984 also saw VDO’s debut live performance on the legendary Spanish TV programme La Eldad De Oro. Valls performed Music For The Hashasins on an emulator with 16 live dogs tied to the stage. During the performance, he destroyed several paintings by the Catalan painter Casademont, using two scimitars. Bags of blood were hidden behind the canvases, so when the paintings were slashed, blood dripped from them. The performance led to a national debate and was discussed in the Spanish Parliament and, as a result, La Eldad De Oro was closed down.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Two years later, Valls released a third picture disc, dedicated to the two greatest sex symbols ever: Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe. However, the picture disc featured images of both of them on their deathbeds; the record was called Cold Meat. Here too, Valls created a special sub-edition featuring hand-painted messages. The disc itself featured the sounds of couples making love, representing love and death as Eros and Thanatos – twins in the world of Greek mythology. Copies sold out in a matter of days, despite, or perhaps fuelled by, the inevitable controversy. It became clear that the works of VDO were impossible to predict – as was as the silence that followed Cold Meat. For the next eight years Valls did not create a single record. “I had nothing to say,” was his straightforward explanation.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Since the 80s Valls no longer releases his works on vinyl, but on CD only. Even though the value of CDs in general has shown a steady decline, VDO CDs remain very collectable. So far, Valls has released four, each as unique and unpredictable as the one preceeding.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Un Chien Catalan (1994, and referring to Buñuel’s film Un Chien Andalou) was a complete surprise to everyone. Comprising nothing but the sound of a Harley-Davidson engine, Valls dedicated the album to a close friend, who drove the bike himself for the recording – just before his suicide. The CD, described as a meeting in hell between Jimi Hendrix, Philip Glass, and Karlheinz Stockhausen, gained favourable reviews worldwide and sold well. Follow-up, The Perpignan Killings, can perhaps best be described as a VDO mega mix, featuring bits and pieces of all his previous records mixed in one fierce blast of fury. Best consumed, of course, with a glass of absinthe in hand.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">The Great Masturbator (2004), dedicated to Salvador Dali, consisted of one hour of bells tolling in Dali’s memory. It’s a strangely compelling but fitting homage to the greatest surrealist artist who ever lived. Music For The Blind, released in 2007, is Valls’ most recent and perhaps most ambitious release. Wanting to create music that would be so beautiful it made you cry, Music For The Blind contains five versions of Enrico Toselli’s (1883-1926) Serenata played by Bernarda Jones for solo violin. The first traditional “music” album by Valls might appeal to collectors of classical music, but they would probably hesitate to ask for the Vagina Dentata Organ section in any store.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Apart from these four CD releases, Valls worked on his “blood paintings”; canvases created in the early 90s with his own blood. Recent years have seen more frequent performances by Valls. More events than gigs, often in collaboration with his brother Marc, these continue to create havoc. Their exhibition on religious taboos in Barcelona, planned for 2008, was cancelled because of censorship – no doubt to Valls’ pleasure. 2011 saw the surprise release of Valls’ first book: The London Punk Tapes, featuring exclusive interviews with and photos of punk bands such as Sex Pistols, Damned, Slits and The Clash, based on recordings Valls made in 1976. He also used the material in VDO live performances.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Valls’ works can best be described as a ready-made collection of human emotions laid bare for consumption, without prejudice or moral preconception. They may be hard to digest for some but, to others, they’re vital audio and visual documents of our imperfect society – in all its beauty and ugliness.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; text-align: start;">In August 2005, the Toulon brothers, now in their mid-20s, reunited for a one time show at </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBGB" style="background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #0b0080; text-align: start; text-decoration-line: none;" title="CBGB">CBGB</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; text-align: start;">'s as an opening act for </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exploited" style="background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #0b0080; text-align: start; text-decoration-line: none;" title="The Exploited">The Exploited</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; text-align: start;">, with J.P. returning to vocals and Jamie playing guitar. They were joined onstage by Rik Smart, Mike House and John McClellan of the New York </span><a class="mw-redirect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatter" style="background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #0b0080; text-align: start; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Squatter">squat punk</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; text-align: start;"> music scene.</span></span></div>
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